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So I was constantly practicing and playing, listening to music. A sunday was like a day for, it was the same day for every gypsy that was from Cleveland or from Chicago or Detroit. Sunday mornings, you would get up in the morning, your mother would be cooking stuffed cabbage and chicken and potato salad and chicken soup and your father would be the hungarian waiter and he would be listening to the hungarian gypsy music and then start practicing and then at some point in the morning they'd go to church. Not everybody was (pause), not everyone went to church. and that was basically the sunday for everybody that was in this book and everybody did the same thing. That goes back for i don't know how long.  [00:02:56]  Peri: Hi I'm Peri Levin, I was wondering, could you talk a little bit about your parents and their experiences growing up and how that may have informed your childhood. Like were they always in the midwest? Like where your parents are from and that kind of thing.  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But I mean they met there and eventually my mother didn't like staying in Pittsburgh while all of her family was in Cleveland and she didn't like my father working in the steel mills so they moved back to Cleveland and he started playing music with one of my mother's relatives. But they weren't playing gypsy, music they were playing latin music. So he played Latin music for about 30 years with the slam band. They became a really famous band in Cleveland. After that, he came back to playing gypsy music and starting playing with the Hungarian band here in Cleveland. He passed away in 1986. My mother and father they weren't anything different or out of the ordinary. My father was strict. You know, you had to go to school. He was also strict about being a musician. He pushed us to be musicians. I went for lessons and playing in town when I was only about 10 years old. That usually about how old they start them. My brother was starting earlier than that. He actually had a band here in the Cleveland area, in this area too. And they played for a good 30 years. They would get selected to play at the Holiday Inn. It was a big circle. And they would tour and travel around to all the big derbies. For them at that time it was really good and because they were getting good money compared to just playing in a local bar. I mean they were playing in one of biggest places that was out at that time for people to go to. Yeah my mother and father were nothing different. My mother and father, they had a relationship that was kind of strange. My mother would go to work in the morning around 6 o'clock in the morning and she worked in a hospital and she would get back at home before we got out of school. So by about 2 o'clock she was done working and she was home. Now my father went to play at about 6o'clock in the evening and he played until 2 o'clock in the morning. She he would get us up for school at and that’s probably why he pushed us to go to school because he didn't want us home. He says he sent us to school and it kind of worked out that way and he worked good for them. I mean, I don't know anything different. I mean I grew up in a projects, on west 25th street and at that time when I grew up it was really mixed. I mean it wasn't just, I mean eventually it became all black but it was just all black when it just opened up, it was really mixed. It was every race was in it. It was a big project. There was a hundred of us kids playing in this big open field and it was all the way from bridge avenue and the way to frankland avenue. So we got to know a lot, all the people there. I mean we grew up with them, went to school with them. And like they I said, there weren’t much different from us either.  [00:08:00]         affordable housing ; affordable housing projects ; childhood ; cleveland gypsies ; culture ; family ; father ; gypsy ; mother ; muisc ; parents ; projects ; religion ; school ; tradition ; upbringing   International Folk Music Council. Romanian National Committee ; Romanies--Music     17             77 Early Childhood   That was basically the Sunday for everybody that was in this book and everybody did the same thing. That goes back for I don’t know how long. It's an old tradition.   Piskor talks about his childhood and the strong Hungarian gypsies traditions that he grew up living. Piskor has an undertone of nostalgia as he talks about his traditions and how his culture. It is very apparent how important gypsy music is to him. Growing up in the projects in Cleveland he describes the change that took place from a more diverse group of people to majority African American people living in his neighborhood.    childhood ; expressive culture ; gypsy ; muscians ; sunday traditions ; traditions   Childhood ; Culture     17             298 His Parents   My mother and father they weren't anything different or out of the ordinary. My father was strict. You know, you had to go to school. He was also strict about being a musician. He pushed us to be musicians. I went for lessons and playing in town when I was only about 10 years old. That usually about how old they start them. My brother was starting earlier than that    Piskor describes how ordinary his parents are for him. Piskor describes how hard his parent’s works. His mom would worked long nursing shifts and dad working two jobs. He also expresses how dedicated his father is to music and how his father pushed him and his siblings to start music young. He also talks about always being interested in his ancestry ;  in large part because of how important his culture is to him that he feels is being lost in the younger generation especially in the United States.     assimilation ; culture ; family pressures ; home life ; ordinary ; parent sacrifices ; parents ; school ; siblings ; work   Culture ; Project &amp;quot ; The Assimilation of New Media in the Instructional Program of a Rural School&amp;quot ;      17             669 Genealogical Research for his Family and Culture   When I did research I did it on everybody, not just my family.... going further back into Europe it gets more complicated but you have more grandparents.   He talks about how everyone is related each other nice you get deep enough into ancestry and geological research Talking about arranged &amp;quot ; back then, they married strictly into each other. Back in the olden days, there were put together marriages. But that didn't work my generation and before me, they were like 10 years older and that didn't work for them growing up because they didn't stand for that, wanted who they picked out and wouldn't let anyone pick.... my grandparents...had fixed, put together marriages and a lot of them were related somehow.... you can't keep intermarriage going without somehow being related to each other.&amp;quot ;  Piskor talks about marriage as one of the reasons he feels his culture is being lost. All marriages used to be within the culture but since arranged marriages have become outdated in the United States, many people in his culture marry outsiders who then dilutes the culture and traditions are lost. Piskor has a nostalgic tone to how he talks about the olden days when his culture was more celebrated and more closely bound. The saddest part for Piskor seems to be the loss of traditional gypsy musicians.     ancestry ; culture ; europe ; family ; family lineage ; family relations ; genealogical reserach ; genealogy ; lineage ; relatives ; research   Culture ; Genealogy     17             948 Culture Being lost with Younger Generation   Today it's different, the young kids they don't even want it, they don't even want to keep the language, they don't want nothing to do with it. And right now it’s totally lost... The band that is coming (to Oberlin)...are the last 4 musicians.   Piskor explains how the younger generation has been &amp;quot ; Americanized&amp;quot ;  and thus want nothing to do with they gypsy roots. As results, the traditional gypsy music, language and culture is being lost. The kids still are very talented musicians because that is in their blood but they are more likely to play jazz or other music that is not Hungarian gypsy. Piskor expresses how George Batyi's band is the last traditional band that. He says that they are getting old and have no one to pass it down to, thus a big part of his culture is going to be completely lost. Piskor has a sad and cynical perspective of the projection of his culture. He talks about how this is a global issue with the younger generation. In Hungary and other countries with Gypsies, they are experiencing the same issues as in the US. His concluding note on this section is that everything is always changing for better or worse and sometimes parts are lost along the way.     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To Piskor, these men are the last who can properly play authentic hungarian folk music.      art ; career ; cultural pressure ; full time musicians ; job sacrifices ; men in music ; music ; musicians ; outside pressure ; side jobs ; work   Career advantage. Section 2, Career and educational exploration ; Musicians     17             1572 Difference between his and his siblings’ perspective    My brothers and sister tell that you know that I’m too stuck into this... and I have been that way all my life. I was only... 15 16 yrs old and going into bars to listen to them play. Now they wouldn't let me drink at a bar they wouldn’t even usually let me in. But when my uncle or somebody was playing in a band they told me no no no, no worries it’s okay just let him sit over here. And I’d go sit next them by the stage, you know, and order a pop or something… I sit there for a couple hours… up until today I still do it.   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If I ask them, you know, I ll ask them, you know, where did your grandfather come from and they say Chicago or something like that. And I'll say no he didn't come from Chicago he came from Slovakia. And they just don't care is their feeling on it.   Piskor explains the lack of interest that the new generation of Gypsies in the area have for their culture. He says there is more interest shown by the younger generation in hip hop and rock. A certain example brought up was the Elvis impersonator who gained some fame for his seamless imitation of the famous rock and roll star. The children of the next generation will say that they are half. For instance, Piskor grew up in a mixed neighborhood with mostly Gypsy and Puerto Rican residents. He says that inter marriages often resulted in families that followed more non-gypsy traditions and tended to take after the other parent. He does not know why this was the case but he did observe this in his community. Piskor does say that the talent will never go away and that there still is a strong element of musical ability in the new generation. But the traditional ways of performance and musical tradition is dying out.    cultural knowledge ; Elvis Presley ; funerals ; generational differences ; heritage ; jazz music ; loss of culture ; loss of gypsy music ; loss of knowledge ; music ; symbolism ; talent   Music-- ; Presley, Elvis, 1935-1977. Elvis Presley collection     17             2329 Gypsy Violins   I never expected this book to go anywhere   Piskor talks about why he wrote his book “ Gypsy Strings”. He says it was mostly for his family and was quite surprised to find so many people interested in his story. 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2. Tavasi szél -- Tarka-barka rokolyának-- Én Ezutaán két szeretõt tartok (Farkas Gy. feld.) (Popular Songs) &#13;
3. Muzikálö havasok (Farkas Gy.) (Mountains Music) &#13;
4. Meg kell a buzának érni -- Erre gyere rózsám -- Sej. haj, haj -- Egy szem búza (Farkas Gy. feld.) (Popular Songs)&#13;
5. Czinka Panna (Farkas Gy.)&#13;
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2. Saátrunk elõtt -- Tinna nenene -- Adott vajda szekeret Nem szeretem én az ürgét (Popular Songs)&#13;
3. Kesergõ, palotás és friss (Csermák A.--Farkas Gy.) (Dances)&#13;
4. Álom,  álom -- Tarka szoknya -- Járd a táncodat Sűrűn szakad (Farkas Gy. feld) (Popular Songs)&#13;
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“Az Együttes Története.” Translated by Google Translate, KISZ Központi Művészegyüttes, KISZ Központi Művészegyüttes, kkme.hu/az-egyuttesrol/tortenet/&#13;
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Mysterious Deaths ; Orphanages ; Romanies--History ; Slang     17             184 Kathy's earliest conception of her family's Abromeit surname    &amp;quot ; So, growing up, my grandmother, uh, her first husband died, and I'm not really sure why&amp;quot ;    Kathy relays her earliest conceptions of her family's Abromeit surname, and how her grandmother had a complicated relationship to her absent grandfather, whom her grandmother referred to as a &amp;quot ; goat.&amp;quot ;  Kathy grew up understanding she was German, and this conception of her family history stayed with her through college and graduate school. 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I mean, you say you feel it in your gut, and I want to know how that manifests in your life.&amp;quot ;    Kathy states that she sees the Romani custom in her life within her spiritual practices.    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Croatian Music--Appreciation ; Family of Music (Musical group) ; Music and Travel ; Travel to Croatia     17             160 Importance of music and collaboration with Zvonko Bogdan   &amp;quot ; sometimes when I was playing for Zvonko Bogdan on a tour or something and I felt like that the people really they, just they loved it and it was something that was a special moment, or special evening&amp;quot ;    Answers question about surrounding himself with music by discussing his collaboration with Zvonko Bogdan. Class re-watches video spot of Zvonko Bogdan and Janika Balaž.       Music appreciation ; Musical Importance     17             254 Grcevich's musical background   &amp;quot ; my grandfathers played tamburica then, then it, passed on to my uncle and my father or my uncle and I can remember when I was that big or something and take my dad's instrument to the top of the steps when there was no one around and just try to slide it down&amp;quot ;    Talks about his grandfathers and grandfather playing and getting his first tambura from his cousin (a luthier).       Family influence ; family of musicians ; Musical Background     17             309 Formal and informal music education   &amp;quot ; I learned a lot from him and also Tuca Nikolić in Osijek, I learned from him. And, um, I went to college for music.... And, just took advantage of situations where I could learn&amp;quot ;    Talks about learning formally at college and informally from Zvonko Bogdan, Janika Balaž, and Antun &amp;quot ; Tuca&amp;quot ;  Nikolić.       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Wild gypsies and that,  we called the ones that were fortune tellers,    James and Linda explain the difference between their immediate community other Roma communities. Some differences include the role of religion and the term for non-gypsies.    diaspora         17             1353 James and Linda's Wedding    when Linda and I got married we had to rent two floors, there were over 500 people there at our wedding    James and Linda had a huge, traditional wedding. The entire community came out for the wedding. Additionally, as the wedding was traditional, Linda had to go through several ceremonies to officially convert to Catholicism.    baptism ; community ; conversion ; wedding traditions   Wedding anniversaries     17             1444 Churches in the Region    Did other gypsies from your community attend the same church that you went to?   James and Linda discuss other churches in the area as well as religion in the community. 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He had been dating a girl and was accused of having sex with her. The girl's reputation had been tarnished and he had to swear on a bible that nothing had actually happened.    chicago ; cultural norms ; family   Family, religion, and culture ; Women, Romani     17             1656 Music's Role in the Ziga's Lives   The girl’s father was a great musician too, he was a violin player.   James explains that he was taught to play by the girl's father. There was a great tradition of music in the family throughout all the past generations. However, things have changed. James no longer really plays. Linda is not musically inclined at all, but one of their sons enjoys playing.    family ; music ; traditions   Family, religion, and culture ; Folk music     17             1723 James Ziga on His Brother       James Ziga talks about his brother's musical education and early work as a musician. The brother played with a band called the Dalton boys. Ziga also mentions a girl his brother used to date which leads to a description of a romani woman he later married.   New York, Copacabana   Family, religion, and culture ; Folk music     17             1829 Too Many Lindas       Linda Ziga takes a brief tangent to tell about the quantity of women in their family named Linda.              17             1882 Food and Tradition       Linda and James talk about traditional food served every Sunday as well as that served at weddings. They discuss the large community gatherings surrounding weddings, funerals, christenings, and other religious events. Linda brings up a strange baptism tradition.    wedding, baptism, romani, gypsy   As long as we both shall eat : a history of wedding food and feasts / Claire Stewart.     17             2080 James' Sister Marilyn       Linda talks about sharing a home with James' parents and acting as a babysitter for his sister. She and James then mention the death of his sister's son and her present life in Vegas.              17             2132 Shrine in Euclid Ohio       Linda talks about the Lady of our Lord shrine in Euclid Ohio. A large number of gypsies would visit the shrine annually for the Feast of the Assumption.       Religions of the world [electronic resource] : a comprehensive encyclopedia of beliefs and practices     17             2229 Gathering in Euclid Beach Park       Linda adds a story about an event at Euclid Beach put on every year by the Musicians Union. Entire families would attend, picnic, and dance late into the night. They discuss how the event petered out in the 70's after James' father died due to migration of the community.       Religions of the world [electronic resource] : a comprehensive encyclopedia of beliefs and practices     17             2355 Roma Women and Music       James and Linda talk about women's involvement in romani musical life. They talk about a few women who were accomplished musicians, particularly violinists. However, they explain that women were usually not professional musicians but took part in singing gypsy songs and group music. James adds that music really was employment for the men, and talks little about his father's musical career in Cleveland.       Roma Women Association Romania     17             2533 Linda prompts a story about the tradition of Christmas caroling in the Cleveland area for gypsy musicians.     Now, what about the tradition. You should tell them a brief story about the Christmas caroling.        caroling ; Christmas ; music ; tradition   Christmas Story House (Cleveland, Ohio)     17             2698 James and Linda talks about the traditional dress for weddings.     J: And at the weddings it was like that, the women were always trying to outdo the other ones and they’d, they’d spend hundreds—  L: They still do.       dress ; money ; tradition ; wedding   Wedding clothing &amp;amp ;  dress     17             2902 Linda and James discuss their marriage.     &amp;quot ; We’ve been married almost 51 years.&amp;quot ;    James and Linda go into the trips taken as a family and the pieces of their marriage that work.  Emma asks a question about the scandalous nature of their relationship.  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Office of Community Development     17             3395 Chicago's Gypsy Community   &amp;quot ; It was a fun place to visit. But I would not live there with the drama that was going on.&amp;quot ;    James starts talking about Chicago and the fun and dramatic community of gypsies that existed there.  They also mention how they would never want to live there with all of the drama that came with the crazy women there.    chicago ; drama ; show ; women   Women's Union (University of Chicago)     17             3448 Goodbye and Thanks   &amp;quot ; Well thank you so much for sharing, it’s been great.&amp;quot ;     Professor Macmillan says goodbye to James and Linda and thanks them for their time.  Linda ends with a statement of longing for the old ways and traditions but stating her admiration for the wonderful new technology that comes with the modernity.     Goodbye ; new technology ; preservation ; tradition   Middletown (Ohio). Historic Preservation Council ; Ohio. 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I am a CIT Communications Manager at Oberlin College, and I was born and raised in Cleveland&amp;quot ;     Basic introduction by Jacquelynn Gaines, and description of where and when this interview is taking place.    &amp;quot ; Gypsies&amp;quot ;  ; Cleveland ; Northeast Ohio ; Oberlin College ; Roma ; Roma community ; Romani   Romani ; women, Romani     17             49 Family History and Immigration Experience in Cleveland   &amp;quot ; My family immigrated from Hungary to Kelleys Island, and they actually spent a number of years on the island, before moving to Cleveland proper.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; My dad was born and raised in downtown Cleveland and then he sort of moved out to the west side, his brother did the same thing.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; His brother grew up in a gypsy household, would have spoken the language at home, would have eaten the food at home, would have done all of those cultural practices at home, and then his father passed away. so that sort of fell off after that point. his older brother was really really interested in Americanizing himself.&amp;quot ;     Jacquelynn Gaines gives a basic overview of her family's migration history from Hungary to Kelleys Island to Cleveland, and then the suburbs later on. She speaks about her father and uncle's experiences growing up in a Romani household and how things changed when their father passed away.    Americanization ; Americanizing ; Bay Village ; Berea ; Cleveland ; Eberhard Manufacturing ; family tree ; Gypsy ; household ; Hungarian ; Hungary ; Kelleys Island ; Northeast Ohio ; Roma community   Romanies -- History ; Romanies -- Language ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs ; Romanies -- Women ; Romanies -- Youth     17             359 Questions of Claiming Romani Identity   &amp;quot ; I wrestle a lot with questions of identity, and whether I have...um...can claim that ancestry, because i didn't grow up in that environment, i didn't cook the food, i didn't really speak the language, i didn't learn the songs, do all this kind of thing, so I wonder sometimes whether that's legitimate enough&amp;quot ;     Gaines talks about her internal conflicts over identity, and the question of whether she can &amp;quot ; claim&amp;quot ;  her Romani ancestry since she did not grow up with the cultural traditions.    claiming ancestry ; daily life ; identity ; legitimacy   Family, religion, and culture ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs ; Romanies--History     17             417 Parents' Relationship and Issues Between (Roma and Non-Romani) Families   &amp;quot ; If there was any animosity between the two families, it was primarily over religion.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; There was a lot of animosity here. She would have told you that she was Bohemian, and she was very aggressively not Hungary, not a Hunky, she probably would have said, or not a Gypsy. So she was really adamant that that was not her identity at all in order to divorce herself from that sort of whatever reputation or stereotype she thought my grandfather and his family would have had.&amp;quot ;     Gaines discusses how her parents met and the conflict that the families had over religion. She also discusses the animosity between her grandparents and her grandmother distancing herself from the Romani and Hungarian identity.    &amp;quot ; Bohemian&amp;quot ;  ; &amp;quot ; Gypsy&amp;quot ;  ; &amp;quot ; Hungarian&amp;quot ;  ; &amp;quot ; Hunky&amp;quot ;  ; animosity ; identity ; marriage ; religion ; wedding   Family, religion, and culture ; Identification (Religion)     17             541 &amp;quot ; Hunky&amp;quot ;     &amp;quot ; What does that term, &amp;quot ; hunky,&amp;quot ;  mean to you?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; It's a slur word for Hungarian, I don't like to repeat it.&amp;quot ;      Gaines explains the term &amp;quot ; Hunky,&amp;quot ;  a slur word for &amp;quot ; Hungarian&amp;quot ;  that her grandmother often used.    &amp;quot ; Hunky&amp;quot ;  ; Hungarian ; slur   Romanies--History ; Slang ; slurs (insults)     17             567 Intergenerational Differences Towards Romani Identity   &amp;quot ; I don't know that there was any, um, anyone was opposed to me doing it,  I think it was more surprise, like why would you care about that or want to go back to that. i feel resentful sometimes, that they didn't hang onto all of those traditions.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; Was there any time in your father's later life when he, like, tried to dig more into it, after he separated more from his brother and being young, that he tried to reconnect at all?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; It's funny that you should say that, because it's just starting to happen now. He's been sending me flight information for deals to Budapest, so I think he does have a little bit of that desire, even if he doesn't have all this scholarly type interest.&amp;quot ;     Discussion of her father and uncle's reactions to her genealogy research and interest in Roma ancestry. Gaines also talks about her father's recent interest in reconnecting with his background.    Americanize ; Budapest ; embrace ; genealogy ; reconnect ; reconstruction ; resentment ; Roma culture ; traditions   Genealogy ; Genealogy &amp;amp ;  local history ; Romanies--History ; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions     17             667 Household and Situation Growing Up    &amp;quot ; I have two sisters, I'm the oldest of those three daughters. i grew up in Olmstead Falls, which is a southern suburb of Cleveland. I don't really know that my childhood is terribly remarkable.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; Neither my dad nor my mom really had a whole lot of cultural tradition, around holidays or weddings or that kind of thing.&amp;quot ;     Gaines describes her household (including her siblings and where she grew up) and her family's lack of cultural traditions.    childhood ; Christmas ; Cleveland ; cultural tradition ; holidays ; household ; Olmstead Falls ; resentment ; sisters ; weddings   Romanies--Social life and customs ; Women, Romani ; Youth, Romani     17             739 Curiosity Toward Romani Background   &amp;quot ; Did you have any sort of curiosity about your background growing up or did it sort of arise later, what was that process of your curiosity coming?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; My dad just talked about it like it was normal. Honestly, I don't think I even knew until I got my progressive education when I came to work at Oberlin.&amp;quot ;    Gaines talks about when and how she started thinking about her Roma ancestry in her later years. 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Catholic church ; evangelical ; family ; religion ; tradition ; upbringing   Family, religion, and culture ; Identification (Religion) ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             828 Her Engagement and Curiosity with Romani Background   &amp;quot ; I'm interested in this pattern of engagement that happens generation to generation in your family, be it the origin point of coming from Hungary to being somewhat more connected to tradition, losing it, as you marry out of the culture, and then coming to your position. And I'm curious, do you think that coming to OB or being in this institution, or just a general atmosphere of the times has created this impetus for you to look deeper into your culture, or to find what differentiates you as a person here?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; I think that Oberlin had a little bit to do with that, at least with the gypsy-ness specifically, but the resurgence and the desire to do some genealogy type research actually happened when i met my now-wife.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; My sisters did not have quite the progressive education that I ended up getting when I came here and are fairly religious and fairly conservative ,and they didn't come to want to do that genealogy research on their own.&amp;quot ;    Gaines talks about the different influences that she had in terms of finding out more about her background. 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I don't know if I would or wouldn't at some point, but right now, I feel sort of uncomfortable about taking that step.&amp;quot ;     Gaines talks about her discomfort with reaching out or attempting to be part of the Roma community in Cleveland because she doesn't know how the community will receive her, which goes back to her own internal conflict about identity.    &amp;quot ; right&amp;quot ;  ; background ; Cleveland ; communities ; gypsy ; identity   Ethnic identity ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs ; Romanies--Social life and customs ; Women, Romani     17             1244 Bohemian and Scottish Sides of Family Background   &amp;quot ; Are there other sides of your family background that you're looking into, like the Bohemian side, or your mother's ancestry?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; Yeah, I've done a lot of ancestry work on my mother's side. I'm Scottish all the way back on that side, and have traveled to the town in Scotland where they're from.&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; They're records are a lot better, they're just a lot cleaner. And so doing the records work on the Hungarian side is a lot tougher.&amp;quot ;     Gaines discusses doing genealogy work on her mother's side, compares Hungarian and Scottish records, and talks about the research she has done on her Scottish side.    ancestry ; Bohemian ; family background ; Hungarian ; records ; Scotland ; Scottish   Genealogy ; Genealogy &amp;amp ;  local history ; Gypsy ; Romanies--History ; Scottish religious cultures     17             1278 Difficulty of Finding Locations in Hungary   &amp;quot ; Were you able to search or find anything in Budapest or Hungary?&amp;quot ;    &amp;quot ; Yeah, I do have some town names and that kinda thing, but it's real fuzzy. And a lot of it too, the borders have shifted a lot too, which makes it a little tricky. Some of the counties are in what is now Romania that I have written down and so I don't know if those are legitimate or not.&amp;quot ;      Gaines talks about the difficulty of locating counties and towns in Hungary especially because of the shifts in borders that have occurred over time.    borders ; Budapest ; Hungary ; Romania   Romanies--History ; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1306 Connecting with Roma Community in Cleveland and Conflict in Identity (Revisited)   &amp;quot ; Have you come up with any names that come from this island that you can contact...what kind of approach would you take...&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; ...I'm just not even sure what form that would take. I was looking through my grandmother's stack of photographs to bring the one's for you guys today and...she meticulously wrote folks names around the photographs...I wouldn't know how to go about contacting them at this point, especially if, people who aren't family.&amp;quot ;    The interview goes back to the topic of Gaines connecting with the Cleveland Romani community. Although she does have some names from her Grandmother's belongings, she has an internal debate as to whether she can rightfully &amp;quot ; claim&amp;quot ;  her Romani ancestry because of how removed she has been from the cultural traditions.    Archiving ; Archiving heritage ; Cleveland ; Family ; Gypsy ; Heritage ; Hungary ; Inter-generation ; Ohio ; photographic heritage ; Roma   Ethnic groups ; Genealogy &amp;amp ;  local history ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             1356 Using this Information Moving Forward (Food Waste, Cooking)   &amp;quot ; What's next for you with this information? Is this, like, a personal project or are you trying to do other things with it?&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; Yeah so I have a lot of interest in food waste. My primary hobby is cooking and I am really interested in trying to collect and reconstruct some of the recipes and cooking practices, and so that's like the focus of my 'research' if you should call it that.&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; What interests you about that?&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; I think just because that was my primary hobby. I love food and cooking...&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses her interest in food (and food waste) and how that ties in with the research she is doing on her own Romani background. She hopes to collect and reconstruct some of the traditional recipes from her grandmother.    Cooking ; culinary research ; cultural food ; food ; food research ; Food waste ; Hungarian cooking ; Hungarian food ; recipes ; Tradition   Cooking, Hungarian ; Food waste -- Baltic States ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1430 Passing Down Reconstructed Histories to the Next Generation   &amp;quot ; If you do (have children) is that (Roma culture) part of what you'd like to give to...&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; I haven't decided whether I'm going to have kids or not but my sisters are pretty solidly set on it so if we can pass it along to them then we're good...but, um...sharing it with my family is something that is important to me, I think i sort of wonder whether I could win my sisters over a little bit more if, oh, we're sitting down over this dish that I've made, like can we have a little conversation that's a little bit less, um...tense I guess through that medium of food.&amp;quot ;    She talks about passing down Romani traditions through the medium of food to the next generation (possibly her own kids someday, but for now, her nephews and nieces). She also discusses using food to talk about Romani ancestry with her sisters.    children ; cultural heritage ; food ; generation ; hungarian ; roma ; traditions   conflict of generations ; Cooking, Hungarian ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1479 Womanhood, Feminism and Queerness In Roma Culture    &amp;quot ; In this class we've been reading a lot of literature about being a woman in a lot of gypsy's cultures and a lot of, um, there's been a lot of, sort of word about, um, you know that you can't be gypsy and have that cultural identity and be a feminist and I'm wondering, with that said, what the role of being a woman in your family has been...&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; I can't really speak to it from that gypsy perspective very much and my grandmother lived outside of that because she embraced this sort of 'bohemianness' so she lived outside of those contraints...one of the things that is harder for me to reconcile, rather than just being a woman and bringing your feminism to it is my queerness...&amp;quot ;    In response to a question about the conflicts between feminism and Romani identity, Gaines discusses her own views on the matter: more than her feminism, her queerness is something that is harder to reconcile with her Romani identity.    cleveland ; Feminism ; Gypsy ; homosexuality ; hungarian queerness ; Queerness ; Roma ; womanhood   Feminism ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs ; Sexual minorities -- Civil rights -- Ohio -- Cleveland ; Women, Romani -- Social conditions     17             1595 The Motivation Behind The Work (Self-Discovery)   &amp;quot ; What is it that motivates you to do this work and have you, throughout this journey of research, have you discovered anything about yourself, just as a person. What has that been like&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; I don't know that I, I'm just so uncomfortable with the idea of embracing this identity so I think I have a detached, kind of, view of the research I'm doing. It feels sort of scholarly and analytical to me, even though it's my family...&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses her detached, scholarly perspective and approach toward her family history research despite the fact that it is personal information, because of her discomfort with claiming Romani identity.    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Gypsy ; Gypsy Identity ; identity ; language ; Racial Language ; racism ; Racist Language ; Roma ; slurs ; Terminology   Ethnic identity ; Romani language ; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1722 Music In Roma Culture   &amp;quot ; I feel like another one of the things that we've been running into a lot in this class, um, besides, like, woman's roles is music. Like we have George Batyi coming and we've done lots with it, and you mentioned that Norbert, I believe it was, was in a polka band...&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; Yeah they definitely weren't performers as a profession but we absolutely have a lot of music in our background, most of my family is sort of musical or plays instruments&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses music within the context of her Romani family. She mentions that although her Romani relatives were not professional performers, music was definitely a big part of their lives and many of her family members are musical.     european folk music ; folk music ; hungarian folk music ; music ; musical tradition ; polka ; roma music   Music--Romani influences ; musicians (employment) ; Romanies--Music ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1868 Other Family and Their Relationship To Their History   &amp;quot ; Are any of your cousins also interested in the Romani background?&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Yeah I have one cousin who is my first cousin and he's very interested. And the interesting thing about Chris is that he's gay also, so that complicates factors as well...reconnecting with communities is tricky.&amp;quot ;    In this segment, Gaines discusses other family members in her generation in terms of their interest in the family history. In particular, she talks about her cousin Chris, who, like her, is interested in learning more about their Romani heritage and is also gay.    familial research ; family tree ; Family trees ; heritage ; hungarian family history ; hungarian history ; lineage ; Research   Genealogy ; Genealogy &amp;amp ;  local history ; Romanies--History ; Romanies--Social life and customs     17             1914 Career Pressure From Family   &amp;quot ; At any point while you were deciding what you wanted to do with your lively hood or career, um, if there was outside pressure telling you to follow a certain path.&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Yeah, um, I think there definitely was. I mean I've had an interest in an arts type background but definitely felt pressure to get a more stable job, you know? Because my dad did, he went and got out of the manufacturing and took a step up and got a white-collar banking job and I think he expected his children to do the same.&amp;quot ;    There was not much support for an arts background and rather an expectation of a more stable job. Her father had gotten a white-collar banking job and expected his children (Jacquelynn and her sisters) to do the same.    arts education ; baby boomers ; career expectations ; generation x ; generation y ; millennials ; roma   conflict of generations ; Family, religion, and culture ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             1962 Describing Current Career   &amp;quot ; Can you describe what your career is now?&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Yeah, I am the CIT communications manager, that was my first job out of college, ten years ago now. And, um, I do all of the website and graphic design stuff that comes out of the graphic design department. I worked for a theater for about ten years before that...&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses her current job, as the CIT Communications Manager at Oberlin College, and gives us a little bit of background about what she had done before getting her current job at Oberlin ten years ago.    Cleveland ; Cleveland Careers ; Contemporary Careers ; Graphic Design ; Hungarian Immigrants ; Hungarian Immigration ; Oberlin ; Ohio ; Ohio economy ; Ohio Labor ; Roma ; Roma in Cleveland ; Rust Belt   Oberlin College ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             1997 Becoming/Performing Identity   &amp;quot ; Do you find that, (coughs) when you're interacting with either family members that you have that are more closely connected to their Roma heritage or any, like, Roma in Cleveland that you've interacted with, that your affect changes at all or your way of speaking...do just, do you find yourself kind of like, trying to, I don't know, adapt more to what your conception of what would be a more relatable person?&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Absolutely. One of the most difficult things about going to talk to Norbert is that the class is a lot different. My grandparents grew up in fairly, what you would call poverty, they didn't have a whole lot of extra money and a lot of the folks on that side ended up sort of in the trades, um, Norbert did some construction work, his sons all did construction work, so definitely the ways I dress and speak and that sort of thing have that consciousness in them.&amp;quot ;    Gaines talks about class disparity between her and her Romani relatives, which shapes the way that she interacts with them. In particular, she raises the example of her uncle Norbert, who was in construction work ;  when she interacts with him and his family, she is conscious about how she dresses and speaks.    Becoming ; cleveland ; gypsy identity ; identity ; low income ; lower class ; performing class ; performing identity ; poverty ; roma ; roma identity   class identity ; lower class ; Race identity ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             2067 The Roma vs Gypsy Question   &amp;quot ; I am, um, I'm wondering about your thoughts, so you said that you, going back to the Roma Gypsy sort of question, so you heard gypsy all growing up but only recently, semi-recently heard Roma, so what is your relationship to those words and how do you use them when you use them.&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; I almost always choose Romani when I'm speaking to anyone who is outside my family because I don't want to encourage them to use the word gypsy, lest they aren't aware of the potential for that to be a slur&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses how she differentiates between using &amp;quot ; Gypsy&amp;quot ;  and &amp;quot ; Romani.&amp;quot ;  While her father always casually used the term  &amp;quot ; Gypsy&amp;quot ;  in the household, she is careful to only use the term &amp;quot ; Romani&amp;quot ;  when speaking to anyone outside of her family in order to discourage the usage of &amp;quot ; Gypsy&amp;quot ;  among non-Romani people.     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She compares cooking with piano as a way of applying Romani traditions to her daily life, and jokes that maybe she will have Norbert teach her some music traditions.    cleveland gypsy ; cleveland roma ; Cooking ; Cultural Traditions ; Hungarian Cooking ; Hungarian Folk Music ; Music ; Roma traditions   Family, religion, and culture ; Hungarian Background ; Musicians, Romani ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             2198 Class Differences Effecting Community Interactions    &amp;quot ; You mentioned kind of like class being, not a difference but barrier, but do you see that in the way that your dad interacts with his relatives?&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Yeah my dad can switch back and forth a lot easier because he grew up in a blue collar environment so he's a lot more comfortable in that environment.&amp;quot ;      She discusses her father's ability to switch between the white collar and blue collar family environments in the context of class acting as a barrier.    baby boomers ; Class ; cleveland ; gypsy ; hungarian ; hungarian immigration ; Imposter Syndrome ; ohio ; roma ; white collar   Class ; Class Performance ; Hungarian Immigration ; Imposter Syndrome ; Roma Class ; White Collar     17             2229 Shifts In Upbringing Generation to Generation   &amp;quot ; What do you think shifted in the generations, like with your dad's upbringing versus yours...&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Hmmm I don't know, I'd like to ask him that question, why he's only sort of coming to that now, um, you had mentioned that you thought maybe there was a cultural push towards, maybe, this, recently, so maybe it's that or maybe it's the ancestry.com commercials, I really don't know.&amp;quot ;    Gaines talks about generational differences specifically in terms of interest in Romani heritage between her and her father's generation. She mentions being curious about her father's recent curiosity towards his Romani heritage.    cleveland ; generations ; gypsy ; hungarian ; roma ; upbringing   Family, religion, and culture ; Genealogy ; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs     17             2278 Generational Disinterest in Roma Culture   &amp;quot ; We talked recently with another...forgot his name, the first person that we interviewed...&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; Steve Biskor&amp;quot ;  &amp;quot ; Piskor... and he expressed a lot of concern of a generation that had lost interest in his culture...I'm wondering if you feel any, like, responsibility to rekindle that, to put at ease people like Piskor who just yearn for this generation that he feels is lost.&amp;quot ;   &amp;quot ; Absolutely, I wish that my extended cousins outside of Chris and my sisters would be more interested, I wish there were more young people interested...But does someone like Steve Biskor really want someone like me?&amp;quot ;    Gaines discusses general disinterest in Romani ancestry within her family. 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Bibliography:&#13;
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Bohlman, Philip Vilas. The Music of European Nationalism: Cultural Identity and Modern History. ABC-	CLIO, 2004. &#13;
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Schreiber, Norman. The Ultimate Guide to Independent Record Labels and Artists: an A-to-Z Source of Great	Music. Pharos Books, 1992. &#13;
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MSU Libraries: William G. Lockwood Romani Music Collection. Discogs.com, MSULibraries, 2016	p. 1, www.discogs.com/lists/MSU-Libraries-William-G-Lockwood-Romani-Music	Collection/281361?page=1, Accessed 4 Oct 2017.</text>
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ABLAKOMON BESUTÖTT AZ ESTI FÉNY (Moonlight on my window)&#13;
AKÁR MERRE HAJTOM FEJEM (Anywhere I turn my head...)&#13;
MANDULAFA, MANFULAFA (Almond tree, almond tree)&#13;
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KÉRGES A TENYEREM, A TENYEREM (My hands are rough)&#13;
FA LESZEK, HA FÁNAK VAGY VÍRÁGA (I'll be a tree, if you are a flower)&#13;
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